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#1 Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:36 pm
by stigzler
What features would you want in your perfect Front End?

  • Eye popping Animations?
  • Granularity of game launching?
  • Plethora of game media?
  • Simplicity?
  • Bostin sonics?
  • Full HTPC facilities?

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#2 Reserved for the Top Ideas

Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:39 pm
by stigzler
Watch this space...

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#3 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2020 6:31 pm
by tthurman
What I've been visualizing for some time now is more of a retro gaming minimalist approach, so this isn't going to cater to the Steam crowds and such, just retro gaming and great for cabinet usage.

Gyro-Sphere

The concept is based on a gyroscope:


Spin Axis for system selections

The gimbal would represent the game selection logos much like any other frontend wheel.

Arcade ambiance playing in the background, or anything you want, something like this https://youtu.be/Di0iTtvP6PU

Imagine if you can 7 or however many will fit, system logos/picture "place holders" from top to bottom on a 16:9 screen.  The center logo being the system selected and those above and below being next and previous selections.  These logos or pictures would be sized differently in each place holder, gradually getting smaller toward the top and likewise the same at the bottom, so as when the wheel moves on the spin axis it appears to be coming into focus as it gets near to the center position, then smaller and it moves away toward the bottom of the screen.

When a system has been selected some quick bling, spattering effect etc., occurs: https://youtu.be/zMh4MPfBkHU

Now you are in the game selection screen for whatever system you have just selected.

This works exactly the same was as the spin axis selector, except has 11 (whatever fits)  place holder positions across the horizontal dimension of the screen.

Once a game is in the center launch position, that video snap is displayed over the entire 16:9 background at 50 or 75% density so as not to take away from the game logo.

Hitting enter (or whatever) would select and game and launch it, but alternatively, a hotkey would open a secondary menu for Control Panel info/ CP config changes and such, even an "about" area for PCB's, manuals and whatnot that most people don't even care about, but it would still be available for you completists out there.

Esc and your back to the game title gimbal selector, Esc again, and you're at the spin-axis system selector.


Granted I have no coding skills, but it would seem rather achievable and use things the community has done over and over again in their never-ending quest to make things prettier.

Don't like logo art on your gimbal, replace it with box art, or cartridge art, this stuff is everywhere.

Just plain and simple launch the front-end and start playing, nothing else, just a gaming front-end with great controller support.  

#4 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:23 pm
by stigzler
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Awesome t!

Yep - that should all be do-able with the wysiwyg editor - carousels are going to be one selector choice alongside just normal list boxes, but also toying with the idea of including a rotary selector.

You got me thinking about sound more... thanks! Gonna have to factor in sound choices in the editor.

#5 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:19 pm
by Draco1962
Top 5 of my perfect system:

Easily skinned and customizable.

Custom menus

Easily configured emulator setup

No HTPC features

Intuitive controls setup

#6 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:35 pm
by Draco1962
I know some like the HTPC integrations and that is fine. But if possible, taking a modular approach may be preferable.

#7 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:28 pm
by tthurman
I used to want a frankenPC that did it all, but anymore it's just unnecessary bloat.  I just want a simple frontend that is "set up and go", not something I have to customize like crazy to get it where I want.  Currently, GameEx AE is the thing that is nearest to this functionality, to me.  Simple config that downloads and installs its own media, but the interface needs more themes and to support theming in general, as that is the thing most want to be customized from the default, as it sort of makes it yours without a shit-ton of time and effort.

My HTPC boxes have become dust collectors, but I will eventually load them up with some old quad-core procs and use them to stream media, only because I have so much invested in them.  I bet they still primarily collect dust!




 

#8 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:06 pm
by stigzler
Draco1962 wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:19 pm
Top 5 of my perfect system:

Easily skinned and customizable.

Custom menus

Easily configured emulator setup

No HTPC features

Intuitive controls setup

Thanks, Draco! Most of the above will be do-able. Tell me a little more about each one, as the devil is going to be in the detail...

#9 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:10 pm
by stigzler
tthurman wrote:
Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:28 pm
I used to want a frankenPC that did it all, but anymore it's just unnecessary bloat.  I just want a simple frontend that is "set up and go", not something I have to customize like crazy to get it where I want.  Currently, GameEx AE is the thing that is nearest to this functionality, to me.  Simple config that downloads and installs its own media, but the interface needs more themes and to support theming in general, as that is the thing most want to be customized from the default, as it sort of makes it yours without a shit-ton of time and effort.

My HTPC boxes have become dust collectors, but I will eventually load them up with some old quad-core procs and use them to stream media, only because I have so much invested in them.  I bet they still primarily collect dust! 

This has been one of the interesting parts of design. How to cater for all levels of knowledge + still allow granularity...

For instance, some people may want granularity around theming/aethetics, but then want plug-n-play on the roms/emulators. Others (guilty your honour) love to tinker with all the different emulators, setups + plugins (thing PSXR, ePsxE, Retroarch, Xebra etc etc for PS1) but then just want systems list, games list and launch.

It's tricky to implement. However, it should hopefully range from as simple as recalbox to run to having the granularity of per-game settings for everything.

And don't mention feature creep!!!

#10 Re: Your Perfect Front End?

Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2020 12:01 am
by Draco1962
stigzler wrote:
Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:06 pm
Draco1962 wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:19 pm
Top 5 of my perfect system:

Easily skinned and customizable.
Having worked indepth with the GameEx Theme Editor. I found it to be good for its time, but missing good WYSIWYG features. A true preview window as you are making changes would be awesome.

Custom menus
Emulators and features in the order I want.

Easily configured emulator setup
I don't mind keying, copying and pasting, or pointing to the various file loctons. The GameEx Setup Wizard is a breeze compared to other FEs I have worked with.

No HTPC features
Got plenty with smart TV, Firestck, etc.

Intuitive controls setup
Again, WYSIWYG with intuitive preview as changes are made.

Thanks, Draco! Most of the above will be do-able. Tell me a little more about each one, as the devil is going to be in the detail...